VALENCE – Season 3, Episode 5: “Hatch”

Nico has a type. Sarah breaks down. And Flynn speaks up.

VALENCE is a serialized fiction podcast meant for adult listeners. You can find more information, including our full cast list and transcripts, at VALENCEpod.com.

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Credits:

VALENCE was created by Wil Williams. This episode was written by Wil Williams with Protest 101 consulting from Tuck Woodstock, creative consulting from Katie Chin, and edited and sound designed by Wil Williams. This episode was directed by Anne Baird and Katie Youmans, transcribed by Katie Youmans, and produced by Anne Baird. The VALENCE Season 3 theme was composed by Travis Reaves.

Performances by:

  • Josh Rubino as Liam Alden and Liam’s Inner Voice,
  • Naomi McMillan as Morgan Reilley,
  • John Westover as Nico Salvai,
  • Caleb Del Rio as Flynn Velasco,
  • Jordan Cobb as Sarah Harris,
  • Katie Chin as Grace Chen,
  • Ishani Kanetkar as Mahira Varma,
  • Alex Welch as Noel Alden,
  • and Allen Chan as Marc.

Transcript:

[[A door handle turns and clicks open. Soft wind chimes tinkle.]

WIL: Brought to you by Hug House Productions.

WIL (PUBLIC FEED): Before we begin the episode, we want to let you know that VALENCE is participating in the new Partners Program created by Apollo Podcasts! If you’d like to listen to the next TWO episodes of VALENCE Season 3 in advance of their public release, you can purchase access to them now in the Apollo Podcasts app.

WIL (APOLLO FEED): Before we begin the episode, we want to thank you for supporting us and the Apollo Partners Program! Your contributions go directly to the creators to help fund projects like VALENCE so that everyone involved in the production can be paid a fair wage! Here’s your Apollo exclusive tip today! Don’t forget to put on chapstick! It’s nice sometimes. Even if you don’t feel like you need it, your lips could be softer! Put on some chapstick! 

WIL: VALENCE is a serialized fiction podcast with discussions and depictions of struggles with mental health. You can check our show notes, or the transcripts on valencepod dot com for a full list of content warnings. It’s important to take care of yourself — especially here in New Candler.

[Season 3 theme music starts, gentle and driving acoustic guitar that builds, bringing in electric instruments and feeling like the beginning of what you always wanted a road trip to be when you imagined it]

[begin episode]

Scene 1

LIAM’S INNER MORGAN: What do you think he’s like? He lives in Albuquerque. He must not be trying to impress anyone. Unlike you.

LIAM’S INNER VOICE: Stop it.

LIAM’S INNER MORGAN: Funny? Outgoing? Adventurous? They probably only stopped seeing each other because Salvai is a dropout.

LIAM’S INNER VOICE: Nico.

LIAM’S INNER MORGAN: They’d probably still be together otherwise. You just lucked out. You’re only around thanks to timing.

LIAM’S INNER VOICE: We–we aren’t even really monogamous except for due to circumstance!

LIAM’S INNER MORGAN: Right, of course–the promiscuous polyamorous bisexual. Such a parody of yourself, Liam.

LIAM’S INNER VOICE: I like being that stereotype, thank you very much!

NICO: Okay. Here we go. Just play it cool. He’s probably going to be pissed like Elisha was.

NICO knocks on the door. A few moments later, MARC answers.

LIAM’S INNER VOICE: Oh no.

LIAM’S INNER MORGAN: [Laughs]

MARC: Well well well.

NICO: Don’t.

LIAM’S INNER VOICE: He’s a goth.

MARC: (Bitterly, haughtily) Good to see you too, Nico. So nice for you to have stayed in touch.

SARAH: [Snorts]

NICO: DON’T, I SAID.

GRACE: Marc, it’s so nice to meet you. Thank you for having us. Have… you met Liam?

LIAM’S INNER VOICE: Oh god oh god oh god

MARC: I . . . like your shirt.

LIAM: I, ah . . . like your . . . shoes.

MAHIRA: [Just full on laughs]

NOEL: What’s so funny?

NICO: WE ALL GET IT EVERYBODY, NICO HAS A TYPE.

LIAM and MARC: Ughhhh

FLYNN: (Quietly) You good, buddy?

LIAM: I’m fiiiine

MARC: Come in, then. You all shouldn’t be seen out much.

The TEAm enters Marc’s small house.

MARC: There’s not much room, but make yourself at home. Anyone need any water or anything?

THE TEAm: [Varied “no thank you”/”i’m good” responses, except for Nico, who says “I don’t drink water” you know, like a liar]

MARC: Right. Well, your timing is interesting–there’s a protest going on tonight.

FLYNN: Oh yeah? For muses?

MARC: Mmhm. Oh — you must be Flynn, right? Nico told me you run The Icarus.

FLYNN: Right. Nico told me you’ve been covering some of the protests locally. Will you be there tonight?

LIAM’S INNER VOICE: Maybe I can be helpful there.

LIAM’S INNER MORGAN: Unlikely.

MARC: I will, yeah. Some of you though, um . . . some of you shouldn’t be.

MAHIRA: Why not? We’re probably better trained for a protest than most of the people there if something goes south.

SARAH: I don’t know. Protests are different from the kinds of things we do. We try to do most things stealth; this is collective action. It’s about being seen.

GRACE: Sarah’s right. I’m sure most of us would just get in the way.

LIAM’S INNER MORGAN: We both know you would.

MARC: I’m mostly concerned about Liam and Nico, honestly.

LIAM’S INNER MORGAN: See?

NICO: Wait why!

MARC: Because you two are the face of this whole ordeal? Nico, you’re literally a career criminal. And you’d probably try to set something on fire before we collectively decide something has to be set on fire. And Liam, your face is like, everywhere right now. The rest of you could probably blend in, but you two at least should stay back.

FLYNN: I want to be there for sure. If it’s okay, I want to help cover it as best I can.

MARC: Sure. We can go over some strategies and things to watch out for.

SARAH: I want to go too.

MAHIRA: Me too.

NOEL: Me too.

LIAM’S INNER MORGAN: While you stay at home, doing nothing and helping nobody.

MARC: Okay. Have any of you been to a protest before, or should I give a crash course? I don’t want to be bringing people who would be getting in the way—no offense.

LIAM’S INNER MORGAN: Too bad. That’s one of the few things you’re good at.

FLYNN: I think all of us have been to at least one—except Noel, yeah?

NOEL: Right, no, I um, I haven’t.

FLYNN: It’s all good — we gotchu. 

NOEL: Thanks, Flynn.

MARC: Good deal. So, first off: we really don’t have any idea how much activity we’ll see today. We’re doing a walking tour along Fifth downtown. We’re assembling at the library—they’ve been really good to us, and they’re {in the loop—}

NOEL: [Wistfully . . . hornily?] Librarians. They truly make the world turn.

MARC: Our real stops are going to be city hall, the police department, and the courthouse. We have speakers scheduled at each stop, all muses, of course. No open forum or anything. We want the focus on them. That means no escalation from the rest of us. Like, if the cops show up, don’t try to start something with them. Our job is to protect, not incite. If someone does start something, watch the cues from others and follow their lead. Don’t play the hero. Do any of you know first aid?

MAHIRA: I do.

MARC: If you see someone in need, offer—though there’s going to be people there trained in protest first aid. If any of the rest of you need anything, ask. If you need water, we’ll have water—and I’ll get you some water bottles here before you go. We’ll take care of sunscreen and stuff here, too. Don’t worry about being an inconvenience or anything. Really, not asking is usually what makes people an inconvenience. If you need to rest, rest. If you need to leave, leave, if you can do so safely.

SARAH: Is there any gear we should get before going? Should we be dressed in black?

MARC: So . . . gear is kind of a mixed bag. It’s a daytime event, and we’re really trying to highlight the speakers over anything else, so we’re hoping it’ll be, you know, quiet. But it also might not. Wearing anything close to armor—even a helmet—can give the cops reason to act up. It can protect you, but it can also do the opposite. I guess long story short, no. Make sure you’re in clothes you could work out in. No black bloc here for now, so don’t worry about that either. Oh my god, and if any of you are binding, please take your binder off before we go. It’s not safe. I can get any of you a big hoodie or something if that would help.

SARAH: Cool. That all makes sense.

MARC: Do any of you have emergency contacts?

A beat.

MARC: Okay. We can use me to contact Grace or someone, then. I’m going to write my info on your arms in Sharpie. I’ll add the bail fund number too.

GRACE: We should be able to cover bail if it comes to that.

MARC: Good. It’s always better to just be prepared.

MAHIRA: Definitely.

MARC: A few last things before we get going. Don’t listen to the posts that say to flush out pepper spray. I have eye drops, and medics have some shit they use that works well. Milk is a weird choice. Goggles help, but they make things worse if there are actual munitions. 

And also, just, you know. Be nice. Be friendly. Some of us have been at this a while, and there’s a really nice sense of community. 

If people are weird towards you, remember that undercover cops exist, so we’re going to be a little suspicious. But just be nice, pay attention, don’t get in the way, and you’ll probably meet some really great people. Please don’t give me a bad name here.

FLYNN: Don’t worry. We’re leaving Nico at home.

MARC: [Chuckles]

NOEL: I—I’m not, um—I get, just, kind of anxious around new people? Is that okay?

MARC: Yeah. That’s okay, Noel. I think we’re all pretty experienced with that, and the people who would make you feel bad about it—that feels pretty contrary to why we’re doing this in the first place. Don’t take it personally if people are wary of you, and they probably won’t take it personally if you don’t give an amazing first impression. We’re all here to do something we care about. It’s not a job interview.

NOEL: Right. Thank you.

MARC: Okay. Let’s get ready and head out. Grace, keep Liam and Nico in line, okay?

GRACE: If I had that ability, everything would be different. Everything.

A beat.

GRACE: But I’ll try.

MARC: Right. Well–let’s go.

Scene 2

Clock ticking, awkwardly

GRACE: Hmm.

LIAM’S INNER VOICE: Combination of me, Nico, and Grace . . . no. This is desperately unpleasant. Should I—should I make tea? Does Marc have tea? Does he have a kettle or is he one of those that, god forbid, microwaves his water?

LIAM’S INNER MORGAN: A jealous streak not rooted in jealousy, but in feelings of desired class-specific superiority . . .  [MEMORY RECORDED DING] . . . but we already knew that, didn’t we? Such an activist.

LIAM’S INNER VOICE: Shut up I’m working on it

A long beat where GRACE hums idly to herself as the clock ticks loudly, horribly, interminably.

GRACE: Well. I said I would keep you two in line, but this is . . . desperately unpleasant. I’m going to go into any other room and watch videos of people making tiny food. Mmm. Don’t bother me unless you have to, and don’t, I don’t know. What do you allosexuals do? Don’t . . . make out with Marc’s cabinets.

LIAM: You know that’s not what we do.

GRACE: Potato po-tah-to.

GRACE leaves.

LIAM and NICO: (Deep exhale)

LIAM: You alright? You’ve been quiet.

NICO: (Genuinely, throughout the scene, with little artifice unless pushed; Nico is comfortable enough with Liam at this point to be more real when nobody else is around.)

Yeah, I’m just tired. Just tired.

LIAM: Yeah.

NICO: Really sick of having this all still at my back even though I’m trying to get away from it. Like, putting actual effort into getting away from it.

LIAM: I—I mean, you had to know it would be difficult, right?

NICO: Well yeah, but . . . I mean, I didn’t even want to do it. I only did it because you convinced me! No, I, sorry—you’re definitely not the bad guy here, ha.

LIAM: Well, neither are you.

NICO: I know. I mean, well—I mean I kind of literally am The Bad Guy.

LIAM: You know that’s not how your situation worked. This all started long before you had any control, and then everything from there was just, you know, a shitshow.

NICO: I know you are but what am I

LIAM: Touché.

NICO: Hey, like, realtalk . . . this is really fucked up. We shouldn’t—we shouldn’t have had to go through any of that, you know? That’s, that’s fucked.

LIAM: Yeah. It’s fucked. Thanks, by the way, for. For at the hotel—

NICO: (Fake pearl clutching) Liam, you cannot talk about that here, not where we can’t make out with the cabinets!

LIAM: (Laughing, fake transatlantic accent) Well by George I, I don’t care what those fools say about the countertops!

Wait—wait no, I. 

(Laughs, trying to reel it in to get back to earnestness) I mean, talking some… not sense, I suppose. Talking some reckoning into me.

NICO: Yeah. Has it actually, like, sunk in yet?

LIAM’S INNER MORGAN: Why would it? It was untrue. It would be lying to yourself.

LIAM: Honestly? No. But I’m working on it. I promise.

NICO: I know, I know. Ugh. How the fuck are they still tracking me?

LIAM: I don’t know. The way your family does magic is so . . . old. I feel like I’ve hardly read anything about the things they can do.

NICO: They’ve always been great at secrets.

LIAM: Right.

NICO: Watch, somehow they figured out how to make it about my literal blood. 

LIAM: Oof.

NICO: Or like, my skin. Just gotta peel it off and I’ll be a-ok.

LIAM: Nico, eww.

NICO: Oh, you think that’s something they wouldn’t do?

LIAM: Ugh. No, they would. They really do seem dedicated to “Once a Salvai, always a Salvai.”

NICO: Yeah.

LIAM: I mean, you could always just change your name to “Nico McGetFucked” and maybe that would… Huh.

NICO: Huh.

LIAM: Do you think…

NICO: I mean… N-no, because my sisters didn’t have to keep the last name.

LIAM: But they were never part of the business in the first place.

NICO: Huh. Hmm. Huh.

LIAM: I mean?

NICO: Hahaha, what if I change it to Danger? “The name’s Danger. Nico Danger.”

LIAM: No. Vetoed. Ha—Vito Nico.

NICO: Do you think I could get an emoji? “Hey my name’s Nico Eggplant Emoji” and I’m the coolest kid in seventh grade. 

LIAM: “Hello, the government? Yes, I’d like to change my name to Nico Sunglasses Emoji Grimace Emoji”

NICO: I just change it to a symbol of the tattoo

LIAM: Oh yeah that would work, certainly

NICO: Hey how do you think you spell the sound of static? Like, fuckin, like, K’s and S’s and H’s and shit?

LIAM: What if you just say “no thank you, actually,” to a last name? Just be Nico. Like the singer but—

NOEL shifting, the group breathing heavily, SARAH crying

LIAM: Is everyone alright? Flynn, fuck—

MARC: Noel, water.

NOEL: Right.

MARC: Grabbing more first aid.

MAHIRA: He’s stabilized but more bandages—

NICO: I’ll give you a hand

LIAM’S INNER MORGAN: And you can’t do anything at all to help.

Focus in on SARAH CRYING

LIAM’S INNER VOICE: Yes I can.

LIAM quickly walks to SARAH

LIAM: (Gently) Sarah, are you alright?

MARC returns

SARAH: No! I want to go back—

MARC Sarah, you are NOT safe there.

SARAH: I need to help! It’s my job to help.

MARC: We can’t get into this right now!

LIAM: Sarah. Can I put my hand on your shoulder?

SARAH: No, please, I—it’d be too much right now.

LIAM: Of course. I don’t know what’s going on, but Marc knows what he’s doing. What can I do to help you right now?

SARAH: No, I, I don’t know. I feel so useless.

LIAM: Would it help to try to find a way to help from here?

SARAH: How? How when there are cops out there hurting protesters right now? We should be there!

LIAM: I know.

SARAH: If we could, I—maybe we can try jamming the police radars. That would help. That would help.

LIAM: Absolutely. Do you already know how to do that, or should I look something up on a burner?

SARAH: No, I know how to do it. Okay. This will help.

Thanks, Liam. Sorry I . . . sorry. I don’t like to get like that in front of people.

LIAM: I know. But it’s okay. Nobody’s going to get weird about it.

SARAH: Yeah. It’s just embarrassing. Okay—I’m gonna get set up. Could you, um, get me some water? Sorry.

LIAM: Of course. No apologies needed.

Liam walks to the kitchen and gets a cup and fills it with some water. The rest of the event comes back into audio-focus

NICO: It’s good you got the fuck out of there when you did. Sounds like a shitshow. Good to cut your losses before it gets worse.

MAHIRA: That’s not what we did. We left because Flynn got hit, Noel was panicking, and we needed to take care of them. I hope most people stayed and kept going. It wasn’t about cutting your losses but I guess you wouldn’t know what that’s like.

NICO: Sheesh.

MAHIRA: Nico, fuck you.

NICO: Yeah, no, you’re—yeah. You’re right. Sorry.

MAHIRA: Just keep helping me and shut up.

NICO: You got it.

FLYNN: (Groan) Both of you shut up, please

LIAM: Here’s your water, Sarah.

SARAH: Thanks. Sorry again.

LIAM: You’re okay. Can I hug you?

SARAH: Um. You can.

LIAM: Do you want a hug?

SARAH: Not really but it wouldn’t like, bother me.

LIAM: No hug needed. Let’s get started. I’ll help however I can, you just tell me what to do.

Scene 3

The door of the car they’re in opening

LIAM: Are we sure we have everything?

MAHIRA: Not like we’re carrying much with us.

LIAM: Right.

SARAH: Thanks for letting us stay here, Marc. And sorry again about yesterday.

MARC: Sarah, you really have nothing to apologize for. I just wanted to make sure you were safe.

SARAH: Yeah.

FLYNN: Thank you. Thank you.

LIAM: Truly, Marc. Thank you for everything. Thanks for letting us stay here, too.

MARC: Yeah, yeah. Sorry I had to kick you all out. Just—you know.

LIAM: No, it’s a safety concern now that some of us have been spotted. We understand completely.

GRACE: Mmhm. Probably some brash thinking that it would go well.

FLYNN: (Scoffs)

MARC: Okay, well… um, safe travels. Flynn, let me know when you post. And let me know if you need anything else from me or the other folks who were there.

FLYNN: Yeah, will do.

GRACE: (Scoffs)

LIAM’S INNER VOICE: Well, this should be an interesting drive to… wherever we’re going next. Wonderful. Great.

GRACE: Mahira, you driving?

MAHIRA: Yeah. Whoever calls shotgun, don’t—don’t talk to me a lot right now. I’m in a piss poor mood and I just want to focus on the road.

NICO: Shotgun it is.

MAHIRA: (Sighs) Great.

NICO: Listen, I don’t want to be talked at either. I know it’s unfathomable but I’m gonna shut all the way up for once.

MAHIRA: Thank you.

FLYNN: Can you two please chill?

NICO: Yeah that’s the plan.

MAHIRA: I’m literally a fire muse but ok.

TEAm gets in, doors close, Marc walks away through gravel. Mahira starts up some music and starts driving

FLYNN: Sarah, can I use a clean laptop to get that update started?

SARAH: Yeah, of course. I will trade you . . . for a hug.

FLYNN: Ugh, tall order. I dunno…

SARAH: Shut uppppp, I’m still feeling fragile and whatever.

LIAM’S INNER VOICE: (Tenderly) Oh, Sarah. I wish I could make her some tea right now.

FLYNN: Yeah. C’mere.

They hug.

SARAH: You sure you’re okay?

FLYNN: I mean, no. But. I’m okay enough. You?

SARAH: Same. I’m okay enough. I love you.

FLYNN: Love you too.

SARAH: Here, use this one. Let me know if it starts acting weird at all.

Flynn starts typing

LIAM’S INNER VOICE: God, it looks so alien out here. So . . . brown and red. Like it’s a completely different planet than New Candler. Or California. Or even—especially—Palladide. How do people live out here? It’s so dry. But I suppose that’s the persistent nature of the human spirit summarized.

LIAM’S INNER MORGAN: Or it’s the enduring spirit of capitalism’s innovations to create livable situations where there shouldn’t be. Air conditioning is a modern marvel. Money makes sure humans can be persistent.

LIAM’S INNER VOICE: At the cost of the nature it’s up against. Don’t act like capitalism is what works here. It’s what’s causing temperatures to rise in the first place.

LIAM’S INNER MORGAN: And what’s more human than that?

LIAM: (Sighs)

A beat.

GRACE: Flynn, is it really the best idea to be posting about the protest? Doesn’t that just connect us to your blog even more?

FLYNN: (Focused) Hmm?

GRACE: I’m just saying. Maybe if we did things my way a little more, working through legislation instead of against it, we wouldn’t have to be running from place to place constantly. And maybe we’d actually make some progress.

LIAM’S INNER VOICE: Ah, shit.

Flynn stops typing

FLYNN: Is this really the conversation you want to have right now?

GRACE: I’m not trying to have a conversation. I’m just trying to give some input.

FLYNN: I didn’t ask for your input.

GRACE: Well. Never mind, then.

FLYNN: Okay.

Flynn keeps typing.

GRACE: It’s just frustrating to feel like we’re spinning our wheels. I just think we could be working smarter instead of harder.

Flynn stops typing again.

FLYNN: Okay, so you do want to have a conversation.

GRACE: Well, am I wrong?

FLYNN: Uh huh. Can I go back to doing work now?

GRACE: Sure, Flynn. You go back to doing what you do.

FLYNN: Work. I’m doing work.

GRACE: Mmhm!

FLYNN: So—okay. Okay, sure. So what do you call what you were doing yesterday, abstaining from the protest and what, reading a book?

GRACE: I call it work-life balance. I call it staying safe and not endangering myself or getting myself seen and endangering our host.

FLYNN: Uh huh. And what do you call what you’re doing while we drive?

GRACE: What do you mean?

FLYNN: What are you actively doing to help while we drive? Hmm?

GRACE: I’m sending emails and keeping in communication with actual legislators who can help our cause.

LIAM: How?

GRACE: (Chuckles) What? By changing legislature.

LIAM: Alright. Who’s changing what?

GRACE: It’s a slow process, Liam.

SARAH: It’s a slow process because they’re ignoring what the people are asking for. That’s why we have to make them listen. That’s why protests work. There’s a whole history of this. Don’t play dumb.

GRACE: I’m not playing dumb, I’m playing safe.

LIAM: No muse is safe right now, Grace.

GRACE: And doing dangerous things is helping?

NICO: (From the front seat) Shut uppppppppp

SARAH: You know, Grace, a while ago you told me you think I’d be a good leader. I think you forgot to factor in that you’re a shitty follower. I think you want to feel like your contributions are helpful, but honestly, right now, they’re not. You either need to prove yourself here with your connections or you need to get in line. Actually, no. You need to do both.

GRACE: I was talking to Flynn.

LIAM: We’re in an RV, Grace. Get real.

FLYNN: I’m just trying to get work done. I know you don’t think that what I’m doing matters, and I don’t care. Or, like, to be real, I do care. It actually really hurts my feelings every time you do it. It makes me feel stupid and embarrassed and like I don’t know what I’m doing and like I’m fucking everything up. But I do it anyway. And you know why? Because I get emails every single day thanking us for the blog. I see people sharing our posts and begging others to pay attention. 

And I get to talk to the people who write the posts. I get to—I get to make sure their stories are actually heard. For some of them, it’s the first time they’ve really been listened to. 

Doesn’t that matter to you? Doesn’t it matter knowing that muses who have been treated like garbage their whole lives leave the blog knowing they’re not so alone? Or, or, leaving a protest knowing people are going to stand up for them? Even when the protests end really bad. Especially when they do. 

This is the first time they’re seeing people care about them. This is the first time some people are realizing they’re worth fighting for. Doesn’t that matter to you?

And I don’t—I don’t even really think my way of helping is better than yours. I think we really need both. But I’m not over here telling you that trying to talk to senators or whatever the fuck you do is stupid. I’m just trying to work. Can you please show me a little respect?

GRACE: I—I’m sorry. You’re right. I…

FLYNN: Shit’s fucked right now. I get it. But we cannot let that make us act like assholes to each other. We’re all we have. And you know it.

GRACE: Mmm. I—I’ll see what I can do with my contacts. At the very least, I might be able to find somewhere for us to stay next.

MAHIRA: Good, because I don’t know where I’m going. I’m just driving east until you tell me where to stop.

GRACE: I’ll get you an address soon.

FLYNN: And I’m… gonna get back to work.

Flynn starts typing. Mahira turns the music up.

[end episode]

WIL: VALENCE is a Hug House production. You can find more information at Hug House dot Productions.

WIL: VALENCE is created by me, Wil Williams. This episode was written by Wil Williams with Protest 101 consulting from Tuck Woodstock, creative consulting from Katie Chin, and edited and sound designed by Wil Williams. This episode was directed by Anne Baird and Katie Youmans, transcribed by Katie Youmans, and produced by Anne Baird. The theme music was composed by Travis Reaves.

WIL: This episode was performed by:

  • Josh Rubino as Liam Alden and Liam’s Inner Voice,
  • Naomi McMillan as Morgan Reilley,
  • John Westover as Nico Salvai,
  • Caleb Del Rio as Flynn Velasco,
  • Jordan Cobb as Sarah Harris,
  • Katie Chin as Grace Chen,
  • Ishani Kanetkar as Mahira Varma,
  • Alex Welch as Noel Alden,
  • and Allen Chan as Marc.

WIL: We’d also like to thank Neil Bickford for supporting Season 3 of VALENCE on Indiegogo.

WIL: You can find our full cast list and information on how you can support this indie podcast on valencepod dot com.

WIL: Until next time… protect your magic.

WIL: Looking for another great podcast to listen to? We recommend Where the Stars Fell. Here’s the show’s description: “Dr. Edison Tucker is having a very weird life. Not being able to die tends to color things that way. Lucille Kensington is the literary scene’s biggest enigma. That’s just the way she likes it. When the pair find themselves sharing a cabin in the strangest town in America— Jerusalem, OR— they’re prepared for a housemate situation from hell. What they’re not expecting is tidings of a stranger sort: Ed is the antichrist, Lucy her guardian angel, and if they can’t find a way to work together soon, the rapture is set to take first the town, then the world… but neither of them know that yet. Welcome to Jerusalem, OR, where what doesn’t kill you is just another mystery.” Find it now on your podcatcher by searching Where The Stars Fell. You’re gonna love this one.

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